Sunday, November 27, 2011

Religious Divisions

So I was browsing Kindle books for what I might read next and came across author Alice Zogg. Of course, I saw the name, saw that she was born in Switzerland, and I had to know more. After contacting Alice, I found out that she had married a Zogg, who was also born in Switzerland. They live in California now. She also shared this little tidbit:
It is unlikely that the many Grabs Zoggs and the numerous Walenstadt Zoggs are closely related.  The family line of Zoggs from Grabs (and surrounding area) are mostly of protestant ancestry, whereas the Zoggs from Walenstadt (and surrounding area) derived  predominantly from people of Roman catholic faith.  In addition there is another group of Zoggs in the state (Kanton) of Graubünden.
Interesting!

I haven't read the book I purchase yet, but if you're interested in finding out more about Alice and her books, check out www.alicezogg.com.

Ulrich Zogg

There is a line of Zoggs who came to the U.S. and settled in the northeast. Their patriarch was Ulrich Zogg, who was born in Grabs, Switzerland, in 1828. In our line, Florian Zogg was born in Grabs in 1831. So I couldn't help but wonder whether the two were related. It struck me that I might be able to find out by tapping Her. Thommen's records again. Alas, what he found shows no direct relation. But I still think - way back there - the families must have all come from the same bloodline. At any rate, here is what Roland had to say:
If your birthyear  1828 is correct, I have the solution and the answer that the lines not are related.
So Ueli *1828 is the 6th child from 10 , from Ueli Zogg 1794-1837 and Margrith Vetsch 1798-1879, marriage 1817

And Ueli *1794 is the eldest from 6 children from Andreas 1772-1804 and °Ursula Zogg 1778-1823, marriage 1793

And Andreas *1772 is the eldest from 5 from Hans 1749-1790 and Ursula Schlegel 1748-1785, marriage 1771

And HAns *1749 is the third child from Andreas 1710-1771 and Agatha Stricker 1716-1782, marriage 1739

°Ursula Zogg, Andreas wife, is from another Zogg-line too.

Sunday, November 13, 2011

The Zoggs

A lot has transpired recently on the Zogg front. I found a couple of contacts in Switzerland who have been most helpful. One actually provided five generations of information that he has compiled from original records.
1. Florian Zogg born 1831 marr. Anna Gabathuler, born 1837, from Wartau, daughter from Mathias and Anna Sulser, 10 children, Mathias is the 5th.
2. Florian Zogg, born 1806 marr. 1826 Magdalena Bohner, 1805-1873 from Wartau, 9 children, Florian is the third. 5 sons had a family with children, so this family is today the greatest Zogg family
3. Florian Zogg born 1769,  he marr. 1789 Agnes Stricker, Christians daughter from Grabs, he was a cattler-trader, 13 children, Florian was the 11th. Brother David was a french mercenary.
4. David Zogg 1746-1788, marr. 1766 Anna Stricker, Grabs, 1746-1825, 8 children, Florian is the youngest. Three other sons had a family. Normally only one or two sons could marry.
5. Florian Zogg marr. Before 1747 Maria Eggenberger, we know two children, Anna and David. Here, I’m sorry to stop, because all the  earlier church-books burned in a great fire.ß
Thanks to Roland Thommen for this!

Other contacts provided some historical context. Alice Zogg, an author who lives in California, provided the following information from her husband, Wilfried Zogg:
He grew up in Walenstadt, St. Gallen, which is only approximately 20 miles west of Grabs.   According to him, it is unlikely that the many Grabs Zoggs and the numerous Walenstadt Zoggs are closely related.  The family line of Zoggs from Grabs (and surrounding area) are mostly of protestant ancestry, whereas the Zoggs from Walenstadt (and surrounding area) derived  predominantly from people of Roman catholic faith.  In addition there is another group of Zoggs in the state (Kanton) of Graubünden. 
And my original contact, Wolf Seelentag, Ph.D. provides the following tidbits:
There was a food shortage during the 1870/80ies due to bad harvests.
Knust is not a Swiss name at all - most likely (if she was Swiss) this will
be either a typo or a reading problem. The following are Swiss names
"K...st":
Karst, Kast, Keist, Kest, Keust, Kienast, Kist, Kleist, Kost;
alternatively I could "offer" Knus.
This would likely be the Gonzen mine - not far away:
http://www.bergwerk-gonzen.ch/
Today a museum.